[Gate-users] Physics lists for proton therapy

Brent Huisman brent.huisman at insa-lyon.fr
Thu Aug 11 14:32:28 CEST 2016

Hello Loic, Sonja,

I assume you are speaking about physicslists for dose?

The Geant4 collaboration at this time recommends something else, and here
at Creatis most use QGSP_BIC_HP as far as I know. See:

In addition, in Geant4 10 two new physicslists were introduced,
HADRONTHERAPY_1 and HADRONTHERAPY_2, the first of which is basically
QGSP_BIC_HP. I do not know who's actually tuning these lists though. See:

Loic, I've never heard of QBBC, why do you recommend it?

Physicslist tuning is indeed a bit opaque: not easy to know who optimizing
which lists for what. I would be very happy if we could spend a wiki-page
on it, even if it's just a list of who uses which physicslist and why.


Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2016 08:13:12 +0000
> From: Grevillot Loic <loic.grevillot at medaustron.at>
> To: "Schellhammer, Sonja" <s.schellhammer at hzdr.de>,
>         "gate-users at lists.opengatecollaboration.org"
>         <gate-users at lists.opengatecollaboration.org>
> Subject: Re: [Gate-users] Physics lists for proton therapy
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> Hello,
> New recommendations are proposed on the Gate Website (
> http://www.opengatecollaboration.org/UsersGuide)
> Currently we are working on the validation of QBBC_EMY at MedAustron, so I
> would recommend that one. (QBBC_EMZ is very similar as well)
> Best,
> Loïc
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> Subject: [Gate-users] Physics lists for proton therapy
> Dear colleagues,
> I am currently setting up a Geant4 model of our beam and choosing the
> physics lists.
> Does anyone of you have any experience (i.e. preferably has done
> measurements) on which of the lists are currently the most
> relevant/accurate ones for proton therapy? I am aware of Jarlskog 2008,
> Grevillot 2010 and Kurosu 2014, but looking for more recent results.
> Thanks for your input,
> Sonja Schellhammer
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