[gate-users] Supported Scanners

Wed Nov 24 19:58:26 CET 2004

Theo,

> 2) you can use the sinogram output --- and not the ecat7 output --- of 
> the ECAT system (the .ima and .dim files), as you mentioned, and write 
> your own code to rewrite it in the Advance format (there is no program 
> so far that can be used to read these files). This sinogram output is 
> a raw format, with one 2D sinogram per crystal ring pair.

>>>>This looks similar to what Sadek has done with the discovery LS , if he can give me some more clues, Ill be       >>>>grateful

Not really, what I do is what is mentioned in item (3)

> 3) you can write your own root macro to convert the root output into 
> an Advance formatted sinogram.

>>>> I dont knwo if I can manage with the root programming.....

This is exactly what I do, and it's very easy. I will clean up my GE Advance sinogram binner and send it to you.
I'm just waiting for a permission from GE to release it, because I'm using their sinogram binning formulation, which we got through a research agreement with them. 

	Cheers,

	Sadek

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From: gate-users-bounces at lphe1pet1.epfl.ch [mailto:gate-users-bounces at lphe1pet1.epfl.ch] On Behalf Of Mutanga Theodore
Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2004 12:53 PM
To: GATE feedback and helpline for Users
Subject: Re: [gate-users] Supported Scanners

> Dear Theo,
>
> indeed, there is no problem in simulating the geometry of an Advance 
> scanner with GATE. An other problem is the sinogram output format. The 
> ECAT system was designed to allow an ECAT7 formatted output sinogram 
> that mimics the native format of the ECAT scanners. If you want to 
> replicate the Advance sinogram file format, you will have to code it 
> yourself. For this, you have different possibilities:

thanks very much Claude

> 1) you create a new system inside GATE and implement the 
> characteristics of the Advance file format. It is not too complicated; 
> you'll need to duplicate the ecat system and modify it according to 
> your needs

I am interested in this option but it doesnt seem straightforward to me axcept I get some help from you or someone else.
>
> 2) you can use the sinogram output --- and not the ecat7 output --- of 
> the ECAT system (the .ima and .dim files), as you mentioned, and write 
> your own code to rewrite it in the Advance format (there is no program 
> so far that can be used to read these files). This sinogram output is 
> a raw format, with one 2D sinogram per crystal ring pair.

This looks similar to what Sadek has done with the discovery LS , if he can give me some more clues, Ill be grateful

> 3) you can write your own root macro to convert the root output into 
> an Advance formatted sinogram.

 I dont knwo if I can manage with the root programming.....

> 4) you can use the CylindricalPET system with an LMF output, and use 
> stir to convert it into sinogram. However, I do not know if the 
> current version of LMF can handle the Advance geometry.

This is what I am planning to embark on for the moment, but since you are not sure about the lmf being able to handle the Discovery ST , LS geometry I don't know if I'll be doing it in vain.. Who can I ask about the lmf support for Discovery LS and ST ?

We were planning to get in contact with GE to find out about the arrangement of the projection planes, but I don't know if my supervisor has succeeded in getting in contact with them.

Ill keep looking and I appreciate all the help from the GATE team .

Regards
Theo

> Hope this helps,
>
> Claude
>
> Mutanga Theodore wrote:
>
>> Thanks for clarifying that Ross, at
>>  least now I know the limitations of my design. What about using the 
>> .ima and .dim files from the sinogram outputs? what can be used to 
>> read those ? Given that one is only interested in the basic 
>> parameters of the DST scanner ,- NEC , resolution and sensitivity 
>> whicih system will be best for the DST then ? I was hoping I could at 
>> least get some form of reconstructed image of a point source so that 
>> I could calculate the spatial resolution.
>>
>> In the example of the Hoffman phantom , what was used to produce the 
>> images I saw on the documentation website ?
>>
>> Cheers
>> Theo
>>
>>  Hi Theodore,
>>
>>>Depending upon the level of detail in your model the ECAT system may 
>>>be fine, however if you need more detail and your system is a 
>>>cylindrical series of blocks cylindricalPET may be better.  In either 
>>>case GATE will fairly accurately simulate the physics with in the 
>>>geometry that you have specified.  On the other hand, the output for 
>>>both systems is somewhat limited and to get it into a format that is 
>>>useful may be quite difficult.  At this point very few formats are 
>>>available in GATE, but GATE is still very young.
>>>
>>>ross
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: gate-users-bounces at lphe1pet1.epfl.ch
>>>[mailto:gate-users-bounces at lphe1pet1.epfl.ch] On Behalf Of Mutanga 
>>>Theodore
>>>Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2004 6:55 AM
>>>To: gate-users at lphe1pet1.epfl.ch
>>>Subject: [gate-users] Supported Scanners
>>>
>>>
>>>Greetings ,
>>>
>>>I want to pose this question to all the gate developers, was I wrong 
>>>to try to model the GE Discovery ST using the ecat system ? From what 
>>>I have come to understand it seems I cannot use GATE to model the 
>>>DST, even if using the ecat is correct it means I cannot get a valid 
>>>sinogram output for the DST ...?
>>>
>>>Could someone please clarify me, if using the ecat system for the DST 
>>>is wrong how can I go about modelling the DST with GATE ?
>>>
>>>Kind regards
>>>Theodore
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