[Gate-users] GATE RTion - question about PencilBeamTools

[Grevillot Loic]

Some beam delivery systems are converging and some are diverging.
e.g. for protons, the beam is usually converging before the nozzle, but due to scattering in the nozzle, the beam may diverge after the nozzle exit.
For dedicated nozzle, it sometimes still converge after the nozzle exit....
Depending on your system and if you model the beam from nozzle entrance or from nozzle exit, then you have to choose you beam settings.
Hope that helps a bit...

Best,
Loïc



From: Botnariuc, Daniela [mailto:daniela.botnariuc.19 at ucl.ac.uk]
Sent: Dienstag, 9. März 2021 10:39
To: Grevillot Loic <loic.grevillot at medaustron.at>
Cc: gate-users <gate-users at lists.opengatecollaboration.org>
Subject: RE: GATE RTion - question about PencilBeamTools

Hi,

Thank you for your reply, I really appreciate it.

My question was mainly related to the specific mac files that are part of the PencilBeamTool - in those files, the setEllipseRotationNorm function is positive. Is there a reason to use a convergent beam in the optimisation process?

Thank you.
Regards,
Daniela

From: Grevillot Loic <loic.grevillot at medaustron.at<mailto:loic.grevillot at medaustron.at>>
Sent: 09 March 2021 09:22
To: Botnariuc, Daniela <daniela.botnariuc.19 at ucl.ac.uk<mailto:daniela.botnariuc.19 at ucl.ac.uk>>
Cc: gate-users <gate-users at lists.opengatecollaboration.org<mailto:gate-users at lists.opengatecollaboration.org>>
Subject: RE: GATE RTion - question about PencilBeamTools

Dear Daniela,

Please allow me to cc the user mailing-list, as this may be useful for other users as well.

Your statement "I believe having the setEllipseRotationNorm function as positive means that the beam is convergent" is correct.
You can also check the documentation of the Pencil Beam and TPS sources here<https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fopengate.readthedocs.io%2Fen%2Flatest%2Fsource_and_particle_management.html%23pencil-beam-source&data=04%7C01%7Cloic.grevillot%40medaustron.at%7Ced62f839cadc4a2caeb608d8e2df3b24%7Cadb749e06dfd4f6fbea8cd9f8e0c9b89%7C0%7C1%7C637508795712744727%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C2000&sdata=T6zqqPwki%2Bpp6ajNg0CA%2FGSsZS%2B5XtWzn6cT39XjFgk%3D&reserved=0> in more details.
For more practical testing on the source, you can also use this "example/tutorial<https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2FOpenGATE%2FGateContrib%2Ftree%2Fmaster%2FGATE-RTion%2FTPSPencilBeamSource&data=04%7C01%7Cloic.grevillot%40medaustron.at%7Ced62f839cadc4a2caeb608d8e2df3b24%7Cadb749e06dfd4f6fbea8cd9f8e0c9b89%7C0%7C1%7C637508795712754728%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C2000&sdata=1ZenIENtSTxfz%2Fv42pfDHbAb1sAayx%2BtebQ1Pa5d%2BfU%3D&reserved=0>".
I would advise you to set-up a few Phase Space files after the source start in the world, let say right after it and also 20 and 40 or 60 cm further away, to check your beam properties and make sure the beam is converging/diverging the way you set it, with the set energy and energy spread (see example/tutorial above).

The PencilBeamTools you are using are a bit outdated, but if it still works that is great!
The new trend would be to migrate to Python Tools from GateTools<https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2FOpenGATE%2FGateTools&data=04%7C01%7Cloic.grevillot%40medaustron.at%7Ced62f839cadc4a2caeb608d8e2df3b24%7Cadb749e06dfd4f6fbea8cd9f8e0c9b89%7C0%7C1%7C637508795712764720%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C2000&sdata=LvvkPyFlAji82qEc6Tsn%2Fb80NUXhpc67j0G7hy3%2F39g%3D&reserved=0>. We did not redevelop the PencilBeamTools though, but that may be a nice contribution in future!

Best,
Loïc



From: Botnariuc, Daniela [mailto:daniela.botnariuc.19 at ucl.ac.uk]
Sent: Dienstag, 9. März 2021 10:04
To: Grevillot Loic <loic.grevillot at medaustron.at<mailto:loic.grevillot at medaustron.at>>
Subject: GATE RTion - question about PencilBeamTools

Dear Dr Grevillot,

I have been exploring the Pencil beam tools that are available on the GATE RTion page (https://public.kitware.com/open-regate/index.php/PencilBeamTools<https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fpublic.kitware.com%2Fopen-regate%2Findex.php%2FPencilBeamTools&data=04%7C01%7Cloic.grevillot%40medaustron.at%7Ced62f839cadc4a2caeb608d8e2df3b24%7Cadb749e06dfd4f6fbea8cd9f8e0c9b89%7C0%7C1%7C637508795712764720%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C2000&sdata=Oxw1%2FsL45nTRGo%2FVv%2Fr9K%2FAHRapFO0EM2PqaK1RZPHk%3D&reserved=0>) and I have a question about the source file used for the optical parameters optimisation:


·         I believe having the setEllipseRotationNorm function as positive means that the beam is convergent. I wanted to confirm whether this is the correct option to have.

/gate/source/PBS/setEllipseXThetaRotationNorm positive
/gate/source/PBS/setEllipseYPhiRotationNorm positive

I look forward to hearing from you.

Kind regards,
Daniela Botnariuc
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