[Gate-users] Some news about the strange behaviour

[Park MinJae]

Dear Simon,

First of all, I like... Dig, dig, dig and dig more...^^

Ok...throw this out over the window...^^

I already did post about my system...at Dec 19 as following:
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CLHEP 1.9.3.1
ROOT 5.14
GEANT4 9.0.p01
GATE 3.1.2
are installed on my Kubuntu box...
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Let's dig in more...
I am using [EMLOW 4.3, NDL 3.11, PhotonEvaporation 2.0, RadioactiveDecay
3.2] for geant4 data...
Gcc version is 4.0.3
Libc6-dev 2.3.6
Libstdc++6-dev 4.0.3
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I thought that versions of geant4 data could be a reason...with low
possibility...
Version of Geant4 data SHOULD NOT be a factor of these problems...

Anyway, we have to work around by suggesting a kind of standard system...

Plz post normal energy spectrum with single_layer.mac on GATE 3.1.2 like my
result...
Detail version information is welcome~

Ps. Geant4 9.1 is released at Dec 14 with G4EMLOW 5.1...
Ps. Jasmine could you check the version of G4EMLOW?

MJ

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From: gate-users-bounces at lists.healthgrid.org
[mailto:gate-users-bounces at lists.healthgrid.org] On Behalf Of Simon Stute
Sent: Friday, December 21, 2007 8:16 PM
To: gate-users
Subject: [Gate-users] Some news about the strange behaviour

Hi all,

I dug more to find the reason of the strange behaviour in energy spectra and
found those results :

- I first installed Gate3.0.0, 3.1.0, 3.1.1 and 3.1.2 on both 32 and 64 bits
architectures,and both cluster and single PC. 
- I ran PET and SPECT benchmark on all configurations and compared both
energy spectra and results from benchmark.C with root : everything was
identical between all different config.
- Then I ran the single_layer.mac simulation on all config and obtained the
same difference in energy spectra as Irene and Jasmine reported. Then I
found that the change in energy spectra occurs between Gate3.0.0 and 3.1.0.
Results from 3.1.0, 3.1.1 and 3.1.2 were the same. (see attached images)
- I realised then that between Gate3.0.0 and 3.1.0, the associated Geant4
versions are 8.0.p01 and 8.1.p02. And between these two different Geant4
versions one of the main changes was the upgrade of the most important data
package G4EMLOW, that move from 3.0 to 4.0, and that includes major changes.
- I decided then to run the single_layer.mac simulation with Gate3.1.0,
Geant4.8.1.p02 and to change the G4EMLOW4.0 package with G4EMLOW3.0 package
from the older version. Then the energy spectra obtained was more similar
than this obtained with Gate3.0.0, but still different (see
energy_3.1.0.EMLOW3.0.jpg image). So I think this little difference is due
to other main changes between Geant4.8.0.p01 and Geant4.8.1.p02, it is
statistical I think.
- The change in behaviour do not come from any digitizer module (adder,
readout, any blurring ...), they are still the same since Gate3.0.0 and even
before, I compared all files and algorithms.
- For me it is not possible too to have such differences only due to gcc
version or stdlib version. But here I ask myself a question : MJ, you said
you get results with 3.1.2 similar to 3.0.0 but what G4 data packages do you
use ?? Then if you use the good packages version, I do not understand
anything anymore ... Let me know your thoughts about that.
- I will now try to reproduce the problem in intersector coincidences with
the Gate coincidence sorter to see where this problem come from and to see
if it is relative to the energy spectra problem too. 

But now, it is time to go on holidays :-)
Dig, dig, dig and dig more as say MJ !
Cheers,
Simon

PS : sorry but I send the images in different mails due the size limitation.