[Gate-users] [ no subject ]

Tue Dec 18 15:21:03 CET 2007

Dear Jasmine,

1st...
I simulated your code [single_layer.mac] with 1/10 source activity for
speed...

I got the energy spectrum of Singles like result.jpg which I attached

It is quite different from your result...

I think the energy spectrum is normal...

2nd...
I simulated your code [0_ScriptSystem.mac] with 1/10 source activity for
speed...

I got the energy spectrum as single_energy.jpg and coincidence.jpg which I
attached...

I think the spectra are also normal because you set the energy resolution
0%...

I am using gate 3.1.2 and geant4 9.0 p01...

I think you have to install again from scratch...

Good luck,
MJ

-----Original Message-----
From: Jasmine Schirmer [mailto:jasmine.schirmer at tum.de] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2007 9:49 PM
To: MJ at ToTi.us; gate-users at lists.healthgrid.org
Subject: Re: RE: [Gate-users] [ no subject ]

Dear Min-Jae and GATE developers,

Thank-you for looking into this problem. We are attaching an example of a
simple GATE simulation (single_layer.mac and the supplementary macros:
no_visu.mac, physics.mac, single_layer_allmod.mac, CylFOV_Ph.mac and
G_CapillariesS_5m_2D.mac ). You can run this simulation by using the command
./control/execute/single_layer.mac. We have run this on two versions of
GATE. You will see that if you run this simulation using the newest version
3.1.2, you will obtain for the singles and coincidences, energy spectra
which do not fall to zero. The output is as follows for a 400keV low energy
threshold:

There are: 868838 Singles
=> 35514 coincidences
=> 4395 intercrystal coincidences
=> 9888 randoms
=> 2264 intercrystal randoms

where intercrystal coincidences are true coincidences detected in the same
rsector. On the other hand, running the SAME macro under an older version of
GATE (we used 3.0.0), the energy spectra falls to zero as expected with the
following output:

There are: 867717 Singles
=> 50812 coincidences
=> 0 intercrystal coincidences
=> 9438 randoms
=> 2199 intercrystal randoms

This bug in the newest version of GATE means that we cannot use the output
data reliably and our reconstructed images are incorrect.

We have noticed that this problem has also been detected by Georgi Gerganov.
As well, we have seen the same problem using an ECAT simulation
(0_ScriptSystem.mac and 0_ScriptSystem.mac). The resulting plots from this
simulation have been posted with the November 29th email to the GATE mailing
list.

Please let us know if you have any further questions.

Thanks in advance,
Irene and Jasmine 

Original Message:

Dear Irene,
 
 Let me check what you are saying...
 
 There is no problem with benchmarkPET...
 [In both the old and new versions of GATE, the benchmark PET was
 successfully completed and no difference in the energy spectra was
 observed.]
 
 In your simulation code, uphold value is 950 keV...
 [However, the upper energy threshold of the benchmark is set to
 650keV while our simulations are performed at higher upper energy
 thresholds.]
 [/gate/digitizer/Singles/upholder/setUphold 950. keV]
 
 In fact, I can't get that the benchmark is same but your code is
 different...
 
 Can I take a look on your code and simulate your code with my gate?
 
 MJ
 
 -----Original Message-----
 From: gate-users-bounces at lists.healthgrid.org
 [mailto:gate-users-bounces at lists.healthgrid.org] On Behalf Of Jasmine
 Schirmer
 Sent: Monday, December 17, 2007 11:24 PM
 To: gate-users at lists.healthgrid.org
 Subject: [Gate-users] [ no subject ]
 
 Dear GATE users and developers,
 
 A few weeks ago, we sent an email to the users list concerning a
problem we
 are having with the newest version of GATE. The email was dated the
29th of
 November and is titled 'differences in energy spectra from different
GATE
 releases'.
 
 At the moment, we can no longer use reliably the newest version of
GATE
 until this issue is resolved. To recall your attention, we showed a
 difference in the energy spectra produced by two identical simulations
using
 two versions of GATE (version 3.0.0 and the newest 3.1.2). The newest
 version gives a different and unexpected result for the energy spectra
as
 you can see from the figures attached in the previous email. (The
energy
 spectra does not fall to zero!)
 
 We kindly ask the developers and users to address this issue. In
addition,
 if anyone would like to perform a similiar test on their version of
GATE, we
 would be happy to provide the macro we used.
 
 Thanks in advance,
 Irene Torres and Jasmine Schirmer
 
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