<div dir="ltr"><div>Hi Sara,</div><div>The example I wrote before should do that (I didn't test it, but I have simulated similar sources before). One detail I missed previously is that you need to include the line "/gate/run/initialize" before defining your sources (but after defining innerCylinder1). <br></div><div><br></div><div>Martin<br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, May 15, 2018 at 3:25 PM, Sara Zein <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:saz2007@med.cornell.edu" target="_blank">saz2007@med.cornell.edu</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">We want our cold source to be located inside a cylinder that has activity. When using the “forbid’ command we are trying to get a completely cold source without
any activity. However, we are not able to eliminate the background activity from the container cylinder. We tried to apply the solutions suggested by the Gate users but till now we are not successful. We appreciate all the suggestions.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> Martín Belzunce <<a href="mailto:martin.sure@gmail.com" target="_blank">martin.sure@gmail.com</a>>
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<b>Sent:</b> Monday, May 14, 2018 3:32 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Nicolas Karakatsanis <<a href="mailto:nicolas.karakatsanis@gmail.com" target="_blank">nicolas.karakatsanis@gmail.<wbr>com</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> gate-users <<a href="mailto:gate-users@lists.opengatecollaboration.org" target="_blank">gate-users@lists.<wbr>opengatecollaboration.org</a>>; Sara Zein <<a href="mailto:saz2007@med.cornell.edu" target="_blank">saz2007@med.cornell.edu</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [EXTERNAL] Re: [Gate-users] "Forbid" command: cold source simulation inside a background hot source<u></u><u></u></span></p><div><div class="h5">
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<p class="MsoNormal">Hi Nikolaos, Sara,<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">The forbid command should be used with the source TubeSource1. It's not necessary to define a new source for the cold region. In my experience, something like this should work:<u></u><u></u></p>
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/gate/innerCylinder1/<wbr>placement/setTranslation 0.0 0.0 0.0 cm<br>
/gate/innerCylinder1/geometry/<wbr>setRmax 1.5 cm<br>
/gate/innerCylinder1/geometry/<wbr>setHeight 6.0 cm<br>
/gate/innerCylinder1/<wbr>setMaterial Water<br>
/gate/innerCylinder1/vis/<wbr>forceWireframe<br>
/gate/innerCylinder1/vis/<wbr>setColor blue</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.5pt">/gate/source/addSource TubeSource1<br>
/gate/source/TubeSource1/gps/<wbr>type Volume<br>
/gate/source/TubeSource1/gps/<wbr>shape Cylinder<br>
/gate/source/TubeSource1/gps/<wbr>radius 3.0 cm<br>
/gate/source/TubeSource1/gps/<wbr>halfz 3.0 cm<br>
/gate/source/TubeSource1/<wbr>setActivity 2000000 becquerel #### to be specified<br>
/gate/source/TubeSource1/gps/<wbr>particle e+<br>
/gate/source/TubeSource1/<wbr>setForcedUnstableFlag true<br>
/gate/source/TubeSource1/gps/<wbr>energytype Fluor18<br>
/gate/source/TubeSource1/<wbr>setForcedHalfLife 6586.2 s<br>
/gate/source/TubeSource1/gps/<wbr>angtype iso<br>
/gate/source/TubeSource1/gps/<wbr>centre 0. 0. 0 cm</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.5pt">/gate/source/TubeSource1/gps/<wbr>Forbid innerCylinder1</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.5pt">Kind regards,</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Wed, May 9, 2018 at 7:02 PM, Nicolas Karakatsanis <<a href="mailto:nicolas.karakatsanis@gmail.com" target="_blank">nicolas.karakatsanis@gmail.<wbr>com</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif">We would like<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> to simulate a cylindrical radioactive source having a hollow center without activity.
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<p class="MsoNormal"> using the cold source command "Forbid" on the region <u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> source. However the background activity from the larger source still persists.
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<p class="MsoNormal">code.<br>
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/gate/source/addSource TubeSource1<br>
/gate/source/TubeSource1/gps/<wbr>type Volume<br>
/gate/source/TubeSource1/gps/<wbr>shape Cylinder<br>
/gate/source/TubeSource1/gps/<wbr>radius 3.0 cm<br>
/gate/source/TubeSource1/gps/<wbr>halfz 3.0 cm<br>
/gate/source/TubeSource1/<wbr>setActivity 2000000 becquerel #### to be specified<br>
/gate/source/TubeSource1/gps/<wbr>particle e+<br>
/gate/source/TubeSource1/<wbr>setForcedUnstableFlag true<br>
/gate/source/TubeSource1/gps/<wbr>energytype Fluor18<br>
/gate/source/TubeSource1/<wbr>setForcedHalfLife 6586.2 s<br>
/gate/source/TubeSource1/gps/<wbr>angtype iso<br>
/gate/source/TubeSource1/gps/<wbr>centre 0. 0. 0 cm<br>
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/gate/world/daughters/name innerCylinder1<br>
/gate/world/daughters/insert cylinder<br>
/gate/innerCylinder1/<wbr>placement/setTranslation 0.0 0.0 0.0 cm<br>
/gate/innerCylinder1/geometry/<wbr>setRmax 1.5 cm<br>
/gate/innerCylinder1/geometry/<wbr>setHeight 6.0 cm<br>
/gate/innerCylinder1/<wbr>setMaterial Water<br>
/gate/innerCylinder1/vis/<wbr>forceWireframe<br>
/gate/innerCylinder1/vis/<wbr>setColor blue<br>
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/gate/source/addSource TubeSource2<br>
/gate/source/TubeSource2/gps/<wbr>type Volume<br>
/gate/source/TubeSource2/gps/<wbr>shape Cylinder<br>
/gate/source/TubeSource2/gps/<wbr>radius 1.5 cm<br>
/gate/source/TubeSource2/gps/<wbr>halfz 3 cm<br>
/gate/source/TubeSource2/<wbr>setActivity 2000000 becquerel #### to be specified<br>
/gate/source/TubeSource2/gps/<wbr>particle gamma<br>
/gate/source/TubeSource2/gps/<wbr>monoenergy 511. keV<br>
/gate/source/TubeSource2/gps/<wbr>angtype iso<br>
/gate/source/TubeSource2/gps/<wbr>centre 0. 0. 0 cm<br>
/gate/source/TubeSource2/gps/<wbr>Forbid innerCylinder1<br>
/gate/source/TubeSource2/dump 1<br>
/gate/source/list<br>
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