Dear Elia Alessio,<div>      Thank you very much! I will have a try.<br><br><br><blockquote name="replyContent" style="padding-left:5px;margin-left:5px;border-left:#b6b6b6 2px solid;margin-right:0">-----原始邮件-----<br>
<b>发件人:</b> "Elia Alessio" <alessio.elia@medaustron.at><br>
<b>发送时间:</b> 2017年7月21日 星期五<br>
<b>收件人:</b> "张晖" <zhanghui@impcas.ac.cn><br>
<b>抄送:</b> "gate-users@lists.opengatecollaboration.org" <gate-users@lists.opengatecollaboration.org><br>
<b>主题:</b> RE: RE: [Gate-users] TPS pencil beam source<br><br>



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</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Zhang Hui,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">When you say that you “set” the energy spread I guess you are referring to the parameters in your source_description_file
 and I think that’s the key. I have the feeling that you are confusing the parameters of the polynomial description in your source_description file with the beam parameter that you want to set. For example, if you have something like:
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"># energy spread<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"># polynomial order<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"># polynomial parameters<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">0.1<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">it means that you are setting 10% of your energy value as energy spread. This is because, with the previous polynomial
 description, you are actually telling to the code the following:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Energy spread = 0.1*Energy value + 0<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Remember, in the source_description_file you always set the
<b><u>parameters of the polynomial description for a specific beam parameter</u></b>,
<b><u>not the beam parameter itself.  <o:p></o:p></u></b></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">If you want to set 0.1% as energy spread you indeed need something like:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">…as you have already found out on your own
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Hope it can help<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Best<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Alessio<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">
</span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-size:11.0pt">张晖</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> [mailto:<a href="mailto:zhanghui@impcas.ac.cn" target="_blank">zhanghui@impcas.ac.cn</a>]
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<b>Sent:</b> Freitag, 21. Juli 2017 04:15<br>
<b>To:</b> Elia Alessio <<a href="mailto:alessio.elia@medaustron.at" target="_blank">alessio.elia@medaustron.at</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:gate-users@lists.opengatecollaboration.org" target="_blank">gate-users@lists.opengatecollaboration.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: RE: [Gate-users] TPS pencil beam source<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Dear Elia Alessio,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">     Thanks for your reply! In source_description_file, I want to set the energy spread with the 0.1% of mean energy. In users guide, <span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#252525"> it says that mean energy in MeV and energy
 spread in % of the mean energy. So, I set it with 0.1. However, when I simulate it on GATE8.0, it doesn't work while it is working on GATE7.2. When I set it with 0.001, it works. In GATE7.2, both of them works.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#252525">The error is like that:<img width="831" height="505" id="_x0000_i1025" src="cid:1d68fdc$1$15d64137001$Coremail$zhanghui$impcas.ac.cn"></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I want to know in GATE8.0, if I want to simulate the energy spread with 0.1% of the mean energy, how can I do? What dose it mean for 0.1? 0.1 of the mean energy or 0.1% the mean energy? Thanks again.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">-----<span lang="ZH-CN">原始邮件</span>-----<br>
<b><span lang="ZH-CN">发件人</span>:</b> "Elia Alessio" <<a href="mailto:alessio.elia@medaustron.at" target="_blank">alessio.elia@medaustron.at</a>><br>
<b><span lang="ZH-CN">发送时间</span>:</b> 2017<span lang="ZH-CN">年</span>7<span lang="ZH-CN">月</span>7<span lang="ZH-CN">日 星期五</span><br>
<b><span lang="ZH-CN">收件人</span>:</b> "<span lang="ZH-CN">张晖</span>" <<a href="mailto:zhanghui@impcas.ac.cn" target="_blank">zhanghui@impcas.ac.cn</a>><br>
<b><span lang="ZH-CN">抄送</span>:</b> "<a href="mailto:gate-users@lists.opengatecollaboration.org" target="_blank">gate-users@lists.opengatecollaboration.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:gate-users@lists.opengatecollaboration.org" target="_blank">gate-users@lists.opengatecollaboration.org</a>><br>
<b><span lang="ZH-CN">主题</span>:</b> RE: [Gate-users] TPS pencil beam source<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Dear Zhang Hui,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">as reported in the wiki, the plan description file contains
 information about the plan, like number of fields, gantry angle for each field, energy of each layer from each field, number of spot in each layer, spot description (position in x- and y- direction at isocenter and intensity) for each spot from each layer.
 Some of the parameters implemented in the plan description file are not used directly by the Gate source code as either not useful for the simulation or not implemented yet (like for example the PatientSupportAngle). There are a lot of parameters described
 in this file and all of them are coming from typical dicom RTplan file. For a further description about them maybe you can have a look to some dicom RTplan file (they are standard type therefore the tags are always the same) and look at the description of
 the parameters directly from there. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">As a general comment, you are right, at the moment a detailed
 description of what is read and what is not (parameter by parameter) is actually missing in the wiki. The description about the source_description_file could be also improved. Maybe you can specify what is not exactly clear to you so far?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Hope it can help!</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Alessio</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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 [mailto:<a href="mailto:gate-users-bounces@lists.opengatecollaboration.org" target="_blank">gate-users-bounces@lists.opengatecollaboration.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>??<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Freitag, 07. Juli 2017 09:49<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:gate-users@lists.opengatecollaboration.org" target="_blank">
gate-users@lists.opengatecollaboration.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Gate-users] TPS pencil beam source</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Dear Gaters,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">    I'm using TPS pencil beam source to simulate <span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#252525"> active beam scanning delivery techniques with carbon ion. I'm </span> confused
 about <span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#252525"> the descriptions of source_description_file and plan_description_file in users guide. The descriptions are too brief especially about plan_description_file. In example/example_Radiotherapy/example5/data/PlanDescriptionToGATE.txt,
 there are many comments with 'CURRENTLY THIS VALUE IS NOT USED'. Dose anyone know  the detail description about them? Thank you!</span><br>
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Zhang Hui<o:p></o:p></p>
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</blockquote><br><span><br>--<br>Zhang Hui<div>University of Chinese Academy of Sciences</div><div>Institute of Modern Physics<br><div><br></div></div></span></div><br><br><br>