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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Hello,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">From the physics point of view, differences are also likely to come from Geant4 itself (Gate being only a Geant4 application), so if different stopping power
table were used for example.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">It could also depend on how you score the dose deposition (pre or post step point or random), how materials were/are defined, simulation parameters (cut, etc.),
scoring resolution, etc.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Hope this help.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="DE" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Best,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="DE" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Loïc</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Rukiah<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, February 07, 2017 3:29 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Gate-users<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Gate-users] Positron range measurement<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black">I am working with vGATE7.2 to measure positron range for F-18,O-15 and C-11 in water, bone and lung and comparing my results with “</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI","sans-serif";color:black">Analytical
positron range modelling in heterogeneous media for PET Monte Carlo simulation” by Lehnert, 2012 which used GATE v5. However the positron range measurements seems a little bit difference with up to 24% for O-15 in bone. For the information, the physics process
used is the same as Lehnert,2012 which are electronionization, Bremstrahlung, multiple scattering and positron annihilation.</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI","sans-serif";color:black">I belief that the difference is from the coding evolution itself between GATE v5 and vGATE7.2. Even I can't find the coding for GATE
v5, I came into this conclusion when I found out that the measurement is different when I comparing physics process coding between GATE v7.2 userguide (<a href="http://wiki.opengatecollaboration.org/index.php/Users_Guide_V7.2">http://wiki.opengatecollaboration.org/index.php/Users_Guide_V7.2</a>)
and an example macro file from vGATE 7.2. Coding from vGATE 7.2 example seems more general and common (ionisation and Bremstrahlung) that leads to a longer range. However I need experts to clarify this. </span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI","sans-serif";color:black">I also wonder if the type of source (ion, particle) also contributed into this difference.</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI","sans-serif";color:black">Thank you.</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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