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Hej
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<div class="">Yes using the same versions, which is one reason why we are so confused about this issue. It stopped working when we tried to run a different geant4 version with gate. Since then it has not worked, despite our efforts to restore it and reinstall
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<div class="">I will try to install gate7.2 with the corresponding dependencies to see if it works.</div>
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<div class="">Gustaf<br class="">
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<div class="">2 mars 2016 kl. 11:56 skrev David Boersma <<a href="mailto:david.boersma@physics.uu.se" class="">david.boersma@physics.uu.se</a>>:</div>
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 Gustaf,</span><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class="">
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 02/03/2016 kl. 11:26, skrev Gustaf Lönn:</span><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class="">
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Hej!<br class="">
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I have ld: GNU ld version 2.20.51.0.2-5.36.el6<br class="">
and gcc: gcc version 4.4.7 (Red Hat 4.4.7-4)<br class="">
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Gate did work on the cluster up to about one week ago<br class="">
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 With the same geant4 and gate versions? Compiler bugs are rare and their symptoms can disappear by using a slightly different version of your code.</span><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class="">
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 UPPMAX (the Uppsala university cluster) has 23 different versions of gcc available, ranging from 4.3.6 to 5.3.0, but the 4.4.* series is conspicuously missing. However I do have access to a Scientific Linux 6 system, with similar compiler details as your system.
 I'll check.</span><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class="">
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 of different versions: you could also try to install Geant4 10.02 and Gate v7.2 and see if that maybe works fine. Is there any reason you absolutely need Gate v7.1?</span><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class="">
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Gustaf<br class="">
<blockquote type="cite" class="">2 mars 2016 kl. 11:10 skrev David Boersma <<a href="mailto:david.boersma@physics.uu.se" class="">david.boersma@physics.uu.se</a><br class="">
<<a href="mailto:david.boersma@physics.uu.se" class="">mailto:david.boersma@physics.uu.se</a>>>:<br class="">
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Hej,<br class="">
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Well, the plot thickens. "Linux Rocks" is a pretty cool name for a<br class="">
linux distribution. :)<br class="">
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Next hypothesis to check: "it's due to an internal bug in the<br class="">
compiler/linker on your system".<br class="">
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Since we are on different distributions it's possible that I cannot<br class="">
reproduce your problem because of different versions of the compiler<br class="">
(gcc) and the linker (ld). Maybe the compiler/linker on rocks 6.1.1<br class="">
has a bug that the versions on Ubuntu 14.04 do not have.<br class="">
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Version details for Ubuntu 14.04:<br class="">
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ld: GNU ld (GNU Binutils for Ubuntu) 2.24<br class="">
gcc: gcc (Ubuntu 4.8.4-2ubuntu1~14.04.1) 4.8.4<br class="">
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Could you tell me the version details on your system? It's also<br class="">
possible that Rocks does not use gcc/ld at all but some completely<br class="">
different compiler and linker program, e.g. the intel compiler. I had<br class="">
a quick look at the Rocks 6.1.1 online docs but could find any info<br class="">
about that.<br class="">
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I have an account on UPPMAX, I could try to reproduce the error on<br class="">
that system. And/Or maybe better: you could try to configure a<br class="">
different compiler/linker on your system, e.g. similar to the Ubuntu<br class="">
ones, and see if that makes the error go away.<br class="">
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Mvh,<br class="">
DavidB<br class="">
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Den 02/03/2016 kl. 09:52, skrev Andrej Studen:<br class="">
<blockquote type="cite" class="">Hi!<br class="">
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This probably will not help, but what I did was that I searched my<br class="">
libraries for the offending symbol, and found out that it only appears<br class="">
in physics lists and processes:<br class="">
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#>for f in `ldd /data0/studen/software/install/Gate-slc/bin/Gate | awk<br class="">
'{print $3;}' | sed -n '/net/p'`; do echo $f; nm $f | grep<br class="">
GammaParticipants; done;<br class="">
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/net/f9pc22/data0/studen/software/install/geant4-slc/lib64/libG4physicslists.so<br class="">
00000000000a2fa0 W _ZN10G4QGSModelI19G4GammaParticipantsE10GetStringsEv<br class="">
00000000000a27a0 W<br class="">
_ZN10G4QGSModelI19G4GammaParticipantsE4InitERK9G4NucleusRK17G4DynamicParticle<br class="">
00000000000a2d80 W _ZN10G4QGSModelI19G4GammaParticipantsEC1Ev<br class="">
00000000000a2d80 W _ZN10G4QGSModelI19G4GammaParticipantsEC2Ev<br class="">
00000000000a2780 W _ZN10G4QGSModelI19G4GammaParticipantsED0Ev<br class="">
00000000000a26e0 W _ZN10G4QGSModelI19G4GammaParticipantsED1Ev<br class="">
00000000000a26e0 W _ZN10G4QGSModelI19G4GammaParticipantsED2Ev<br class="">
00000000000a2f20 W<br class="">
_ZNK10G4QGSModelI19G4GammaParticipantsE16ModelDescriptionERSo<br class="">
00000000000a26c0 W<br class="">
_ZNK10G4QGSModelI19G4GammaParticipantsE17GetWoundedNucleusEv<br class="">
00000000000a26d0 W<br class="">
_ZNK10G4QGSModelI19G4GammaParticipantsE20GetProjectileNucleusEv<br class="">
0000000000309740 V _ZTI10G4QGSModelI19G4GammaParticipantsE<br class="">
00000000000e3960 V _ZTS10G4QGSModelI19G4GammaParticipantsE<br class="">
00000000003096e0 V _ZTV10G4QGSModelI19G4GammaParticipantsE<br class="">
                U _ZTV19G4GammaParticipants<br class="">
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/net/f9pc22/data0/studen/software/install/geant4-slc/lib64/libG4processes.so<br class="">
0000000000bd6850 t _GLOBAL__I_G4GammaParticipants.cc<br class="">
0000000000bd69a0 T<br class="">
_ZN19G4GammaParticipants18SelectInteractionsERK17G4ReactionProduct<br class="">
0000000000bd71c0 W _ZN19G4GammaParticipantsD0Ev<br class="">
0000000000bd71a0 W _ZN19G4GammaParticipantsD1Ev<br class="">
0000000000bd71a0 W _ZN19G4GammaParticipantsD2Ev<br class="">
00000000015f1380 V _ZTI19G4GammaParticipants<br class="">
000000000124ce40 V _ZTS19G4GammaParticipants<br class="">
00000000015f1320 V _ZTV19G4GammaParticipants<br class="">
<br class="">
However both libG4processes.so and libG4physicslists.so seem to be the<br class="">
default Geant4 libraries for Gustaf. Btw - this is V7.1 w/ Geant10.1<br class="">
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Cheers<br class="">
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A.<br class="">
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On 03/02/16 09:25, Gustaf Lönn wrote:<br class="">
<blockquote type="cite" class="">Hi again!<br class="">
<br class="">
I removed all the previous versions of geant4 and gate and did a full<br class="">
recompilation from scratch with new build directories. Contrary to<br class="">
what I stated before I am not using ubuntu but a Rocks 6.1.1<br class="">
distribution of linux for cluster simulations.<br class="">
<br class="">
When I try to run gate I still get the same error:<br class="">
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Symbol `_ZTV19G4GammaParticipants' has different size in shared<br class="">
object, consider re-linking<br class="">
Gate: symbol lookup error: Gate: undefined symbol:<br class="">
ZN12G4AllocStats6numCatE<br class="">
<br class="">
In my bash script I have:<br class="">
source /home/gate/gate_sources2/root/bin/thisroot.sh<br class="">
source /home/gate/gate_sources2/geant4.10.01.p03-install/bin/geant4.sh<br class="">
export Path=$PATH: /home/gate/gate_sources2/gate_v7.1-install/bin/<br class="">
<br class="">
and "ldd /home/gate/gate_sources2/gate_v7.1-install/bin/Gate” returns<br class="">
the following output:<br class="">
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inux-vdso.so.1 =>  (0x00007fffb4fff000)<br class="">
libG4Tree.so =><br class="">
/home/gate/gate_sources2/geant4.10.01.p03-install/lib64/libG4Tree.so<br class="">
(0x00007f2df3227000)<br class="">
libG4FR.so =><br class="">
/home/gate/gate_sources2/geant4.10.01.p03-install/lib64/libG4FR.so<br class="">
(0x00007f2df3013000)<br class="">
libG4GMocren.so =><br class="">
/home/gate/gate_sources2/geant4.10.01.p03-install/lib64/libG4GMocren.so<br class="">
(0x00007f2df2dd2000)<br class="">
libG4visHepRep.so =><br class="">
/home/gate/gate_sources2/geant4.10.01.p03-install/lib64/libG4visHepRep.so<br class="">
(0x00007f2df2b4b000)<br class="">
libG4RayTracer.so =><br class="">
/home/gate/gate_sources2/geant4.10.01.p03-install/lib64/libG4RayTracer.so<br class="">
(0x00007f2df2921000)<br class="">
libG4VRML.so =><br class="">
/home/gate/gate_sources2/geant4.10.01.p03-install/lib64/libG4VRML.so<br class="">
(0x00007f2df270a000)<br class="">
libG4vis_management.so =><br class="">
/home/gate/gate_sources2/geant4.10.01.p03-install/lib64/libG4vis_management.so<br class="">
(0x00007f2df243e000)<br class="">
libG4modeling.so =><br class="">
/home/gate/gate_sources2/geant4.10.01.p03-install/lib64/libG4modeling.so<br class="">
(0x00007f2df2188000)<br class="">
libG4interfaces.so =><br class="">
/home/gate/gate_sources2/geant4.10.01.p03-install/lib64/libG4interfaces.so<br class="">
(0x00007f2df1f52000)<br class="">
libG4persistency.so =><br class="">
/home/gate/gate_sources2/geant4.10.01.p03-install/lib64/libG4persistency.so<br class="">
(0x00007f2df1cb6000)<br class="">
libG4analysis.so =><br class="">
/home/gate/gate_sources2/geant4.10.01.p03-install/lib64/libG4analysis.so<br class="">
(0x00007f2df1854000)<br class="">
libG4error_propagation.so =><br class="">
/home/gate/gate_sources2/geant4.10.01.p03-install/lib64/libG4error_propagation.so<br class="">
(0x00007f2df1619000)<br class="">
libG4readout.so =><br class="">
/home/gate/gate_sources2/geant4.10.01.p03-install/lib64/libG4readout.so<br class="">
(0x00007f2df1411000)<br class="">
libG4physicslists.so =><br class="">
/home/gate/gate_sources2/geant4.10.01.p03-install/lib64/libG4physicslists.so<br class="">
(0x00007f2df10f7000)<br class="">
libG4run.so =><br class="">
/home/gate/gate_sources2/geant4.10.01.p03-install/lib64/libG4run.so<br class="">
(0x00007f2df0e8c000)<br class="">
libG4event.so =><br class="">
/home/gate/gate_sources2/geant4.10.01.p03-install/lib64/libG4event.so<br class="">
(0x00007f2df0c1d000)<br class="">
libG4tracking.so =><br class="">
/home/gate/gate_sources2/geant4.10.01.p03-install/lib64/libG4tracking.so<br class="">
(0x00007f2df09df000)<br class="">
libG4parmodels.so =><br class="">
/home/gate/gate_sources2/geant4.10.01.p03-install/lib64/libG4parmodels.so<br class="">
(0x00007f2df07cb000)<br class="">
libG4processes.so =><br class="">
/home/gate/gate_sources2/geant4.10.01.p03-install/lib64/libG4processes.so<br class="">
(0x00007f2def07d000)<br class="">
libG4digits_hits.so =><br class="">
/home/gate/gate_sources2/geant4.10.01.p03-install/lib64/libG4digits_hits.so<br class="">
(0x00007f2deeddd000)<br class="">
libG4track.so =><br class="">
/home/gate/gate_sources2/geant4.10.01.p03-install/lib64/libG4track.so<br class="">
(0x00007f2deebc2000)<br class="">
libG4particles.so =><br class="">
/home/gate/gate_sources2/geant4.10.01.p03-install/lib64/libG4particles.so<br class="">
(0x00007f2dee868000)<br class="">
libG4geometry.so =><br class="">
/home/gate/gate_sources2/geant4.10.01.p03-install/lib64/libG4geometry.so<br class="">
(0x00007f2dee3f6000)<br class="">
libG4materials.so =><br class="">
/home/gate/gate_sources2/geant4.10.01.p03-install/lib64/libG4materials.so<br class="">
(0x00007f2dee14f000)<br class="">
libG4graphics_reps.so =><br class="">
/home/gate/gate_sources2/geant4.10.01.p03-install/lib64/libG4graphics_reps.so<br class="">
(0x00007f2dedf11000)<br class="">
libG4intercoms.so =><br class="">
/home/gate/gate_sources2/geant4.10.01.p03-install/lib64/libG4intercoms.so<br class="">
(0x00007f2dedcc6000)<br class="">
libG4global.so =><br class="">
/home/gate/gate_sources2/geant4.10.01.p03-install/lib64/libG4global.so<br class="">
(0x00007f2deda7d000)<br class="">
libG4clhep.so =><br class="">
/home/gate/gate_sources2/geant4.10.01.p03-install/lib64/libG4clhep.so<br class="">
(0x00007f2ded7ee000)<br class="">
libG4zlib.so =><br class="">
/home/gate/gate_sources2/geant4.10.01.p03-install/lib64/libG4zlib.so<br class="">
(0x00007f2ded5d8000)<br class="">
libG4geomUSolids.so =><br class="">
/home/gate/gate_sources2/geant4.10.01.p03-install/lib64/libG4geomUSolids.so<br class="">
(0x00007f2ded332000)<br class="">
libCore.so => /home/gate/gate_sources2/root/lib/libCore.so<br class="">
(0x00007f2dec985000)<br class="">
libCint.so => /home/gate/gate_sources2/root/lib/libCint.so<br class="">
(0x00007f2dec003000)<br class="">
libRIO.so => /home/gate/gate_sources2/root/lib/libRIO.so<br class="">
(0x00007f2debaf8000)<br class="">
libNet.so => /home/gate/gate_sources2/root/lib/libNet.so<br class="">
(0x00007f2deb77e000)<br class="">
libHist.so => /home/gate/gate_sources2/root/lib/libHist.so<br class="">
(0x00007f2deb00c000)<br class="">
libGraf.so => /home/gate/gate_sources2/root/lib/libGraf.so<br class="">
(0x00007f2deac05000)<br class="">
libGraf3d.so => /home/gate/gate_sources2/root/lib/libGraf3d.so<br class="">
(0x00007f2dea8d9000)<br class="">
libGpad.so => /home/gate/gate_sources2/root/lib/libGpad.so<br class="">
(0x00007f2dea5d5000)<br class="">
libTree.so => /home/gate/gate_sources2/root/lib/libTree.so<br class="">
(0x00007f2dea18d000)<br class="">
libRint.so => /home/gate/gate_sources2/root/lib/libRint.so<br class="">
(0x00007f2de9f59000)<br class="">
libPostscript.so => /home/gate/gate_sources2/root/lib/libPostscript.so<br class="">
(0x00007f2de9cd9000)<br class="">
libMatrix.so => /home/gate/gate_sources2/root/lib/libMatrix.so<br class="">
(0x00007f2de9879000)<br class="">
libPhysics.so => /home/gate/gate_sources2/root/lib/libPhysics.so<br class="">
(0x00007f2de95db000)<br class="">
libMathCore.so => /home/gate/gate_sources2/root/lib/libMathCore.so<br class="">
(0x00007f2de9161000)<br class="">
libThread.so => /home/gate/gate_sources2/root/lib/libThread.so<br class="">
(0x00007f2de8f0d000)<br class="">
libdl.so.2 => /lib64/libdl.so.2 (0x0000003af2400000)<br class="">
libpthread.so.0 => /lib64/libpthread.so.0 (0x0000003af2800000)<br class="">
libSM.so.6 => /usr/lib64/libSM.so.6 (0x0000003afe000000)<br class="">
libICE.so.6 => /usr/lib64/libICE.so.6 (0x0000003afe400000)<br class="">
libX11.so.6 => /usr/lib64/libX11.so.6 (0x0000003af5000000)<br class="">
libXext.so.6 => /usr/lib64/libXext.so.6 (0x0000003af6000000)<br class="">
libexpat.so.1 => /lib64/libexpat.so.1 (0x0000003af6c00000)<br class="">
libstdc++.so.6 => /usr/lib64/libstdc++.so.6 (0x0000003afd400000)<br class="">
libm.so.6 => /lib64/libm.so.6 (0x0000003af2000000)<br class="">
libgcc_s.so.1 => /lib64/libgcc_s.so.1 (0x0000003af6400000)<br class="">
libc.so.6 => /lib64/libc.so.6 (0x0000003af1c00000)<br class="">
libz.so.1 => /lib64/libz.so.1 (0x0000003af2c00000)<br class="">
libpcre.so.0 => /lib64/libpcre.so.0 (0x0000003af3800000)<br class="">
/lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 (0x0000003af1800000)<br class="">
libcrypto.so.10 => /usr/lib64/libcrypto.so.10 (0x0000003afa800000)<br class="">
libssl.so.10 => /usr/lib64/libssl.so.10 (0x0000003b00800000)<br class="">
libfreetype.so.6 => /usr/lib64/libfreetype.so.6 (0x0000003af6800000)<br class="">
libuuid.so.1 => /lib64/libuuid.so.1 (0x0000003af7400000)<br class="">
libxcb.so.1 => /usr/lib64/libxcb.so.1 (0x0000003af5400000)<br class="">
libgssapi_krb5.so.2 => /lib64/libgssapi_krb5.so.2 (0x0000003b00400000)<br class="">
libkrb5.so.3 => /lib64/libkrb5.so.3 (0x0000003aff800000)<br class="">
libcom_err.so.2 => /lib64/libcom_err.so.2 (0x0000003afd800000)<br class="">
libk5crypto.so.3 => /lib64/libk5crypto.so.3 (0x0000003aff400000)<br class="">
libXau.so.6 => /usr/lib64/libXau.so.6 (0x0000003af5800000)<br class="">
libkrb5support.so.0 => /lib64/libkrb5support.so.0 (0x0000003affc00000)<br class="">
libkeyutils.so.1 => /lib64/libkeyutils.so.1 (0x0000003aff000000)<br class="">
libresolv.so.2 => /lib64/libresolv.so.2 (0x0000003af3c00000)<br class="">
libselinux.so.1 => /lib64/libselinux.so.1 (0x0000003af3400000)<br class="">
<br class="">
any ideas of what might be wrong? I will appreciate all the help I can<br class="">
get.<br class="">
<br class="">
//<br class="">
Gustaf<br class="">
<br class="">
<blockquote type="cite" class="">1 mars 2016 kl. 18:59 skrev David Boersma<br class="">
<<a href="mailto:david.boersma@physics.uu.se" class="">david.boersma@physics.uu.se</a><br class="">
<<a href="mailto:david.boersma@physics.uu.se" class="">mailto:david.boersma@physics.uu.se</a>><<a href="mailto:david.boersma@physics.uu.se" class="">mailto:david.boersma@physics.uu.se</a>>>:<br class="">
<br class="">
Hej Gustaf,<br class="">
<br class="">
Now we are talking about two different situations: "the system" and<br class="">
"my private computer". Did you get the same linking errors on both of<br class="">
them?<br class="">
<br class="">
I guess that "the system" is your main priority. So then it would be<br class="">
more useful to look at the ldd output for your setup at that system.<br class="">
I'm looking forward to your investigation results tomorrow. :)<br class="">
<br class="">
/DavidB<br class="">
<br class="">
Den 01/03/2016 kl. 18:46, skrev Gustaf Lönn:<br class="">
<blockquote type="cite" class="">Hello!<br class="">
<br class="">
I’m not sure about the exact release and I don’t have access to the<br class="">
system at this very moment.<br class="">
I belive there is a previous version of geant4 installed in another<br class="">
directory, but I think it is geant4.9.6.<br class="">
I did not use the make clean command during the previous recompilation<br class="">
but deleted the build directory etc. so I believe it was<br class="">
completely from<br class="">
scratch?<br class="">
<br class="">
As I mentioned I don’t have access to the system at this moment but I<br class="">
was clever enough to export the ldd Gate output to my private computer<br class="">
so I’ll post it below. At first glance I don’t spot any odd<br class="">
dependencies, all are linked to<br class="">
gate_sources2/geant4.10.01.p03-install/lib64. I’ll investigate further<br class="">
tomorrow when I have access to the system.<br class="">
<br class="">
//<br class="">
Gustaf<br class="">
<br class="">
ldd Gate output:<br class="">
<br class="">
linux-vdso.so.1 =>  (0x00007fff1a7ff000)<br class="">
libG4Tree.so =><br class="">
/home/gate/gate_sources2/geant4.10.01.p03-install/lib64/libG4Tree.so<br class="">
(0x00007f4f64ff5000)<br class="">
libG4FR.so =><br class="">
/home/gate/gate_sources2/geant4.10.01.p03-install/lib64/libG4FR.so<br class="">
(0x00007f4f64de1000)<br class="">
libG4GMocren.so =><br class="">
/home/gate/gate_sources2/geant4.10.01.p03-install/lib64/libG4GMocren.so<br class="">
(0x00007f4f64ba0000)<br class="">
libG4visHepRep.so =><br class="">
/home/gate/gate_sources2/geant4.10.01.p03-install/lib64/libG4visHepRep.so<br class="">
(0x00007f4f64919000)<br class="">
libG4RayTracer.so =><br class="">
/home/gate/gate_sources2/geant4.10.01.p03-install/lib64/libG4RayTracer.so<br class="">
(0x00007f4f646ef000)<br class="">
libG4VRML.so =><br class="">
/home/gate/gate_sources2/geant4.10.01.p03-install/lib64/libG4VRML.so<br class="">
(0x00007f4f644d8000)<br class="">
libG4vis_management.so =><br class="">
/home/gate/gate_sources2/geant4.10.01.p03-install/lib64/libG4vis_management.so<br class="">
(0x00007f4f6420c000)<br class="">
libG4modeling.so =><br class="">
/home/gate/gate_sources2/geant4.10.01.p03-install/lib64/libG4modeling.so<br class="">
(0x00007f4f63f56000)<br class="">
libG4interfaces.so =><br class="">
/home/gate/gate_sources2/geant4.10.01.p03-install/lib64/libG4interfaces.so<br class="">
(0x00007f4f63d20000)<br class="">
libG4persistency.so =><br class="">
/home/gate/gate_sources2/geant4.10.01.p03-install/lib64/libG4persistency.so<br class="">
(0x00007f4f63a84000)<br class="">
libG4analysis.so =><br class="">
/home/gate/gate_sources2/geant4.10.01.p03-install/lib64/libG4analysis.so<br class="">
(0x00007f4f63622000)<br class="">
libG4error_propagation.so =><br class="">
/home/gate/gate_sources2/geant4.10.01.p03-install/lib64/libG4error_propagation.so<br class="">
(0x00007f4f633e7000)<br class="">
libG4readout.so =><br class="">
/home/gate/gate_sources2/geant4.10.01.p03-install/lib64/libG4readout.so<br class="">
(0x00007f4f631df000)<br class="">
libG4physicslists.so =><br class="">
/home/gate/gate_sources2/geant4.10.01.p03-install/lib64/libG4physicslists.so<br class="">
(0x00007f4f62ec5000)<br class="">
libG4run.so =><br class="">
/home/gate/gate_sources2/geant4.10.01.p03-install/lib64/libG4run.so<br class="">
(0x00007f4f62c5a000)<br class="">
libG4event.so =><br class="">
/home/gate/gate_sources2/geant4.10.01.p03-install/lib64/libG4event.so<br class="">
(0x00007f4f629eb000)<br class="">
libG4tracking.so =><br class="">
/home/gate/gate_sources2/geant4.10.01.p03-install/lib64/libG4tracking.so<br class="">
(0x00007f4f627ad000)<br class="">
libG4parmodels.so =><br class="">
/home/gate/gate_sources2/geant4.10.01.p03-install/lib64/libG4parmodels.so<br class="">
(0x00007f4f62599000)<br class="">
libG4processes.so =><br class="">
/home/gate/gate_sources2/geant4.10.01.p03-install/lib64/libG4processes.so<br class="">
(0x00007f4f60e4b000)<br class="">
libG4digits_hits.so =><br class="">
/home/gate/gate_sources2/geant4.10.01.p03-install/lib64/libG4digits_hits.so<br class="">
(0x00007f4f60bab000)<br class="">
libG4track.so =><br class="">
/home/gate/gate_sources2/geant4.10.01.p03-install/lib64/libG4track.so<br class="">
(0x00007f4f60990000)<br class="">
libG4particles.so =><br class="">
/home/gate/gate_sources2/geant4.10.01.p03-install/lib64/libG4particles.so<br class="">
(0x00007f4f60636000)<br class="">
libG4geometry.so =><br class="">
/home/gate/gate_sources2/geant4.10.01.p03-install/lib64/libG4geometry.so<br class="">
(0x00007f4f601c4000)<br class="">
libG4materials.so =><br class="">
/home/gate/gate_sources2/geant4.10.01.p03-install/lib64/libG4materials.so<br class="">
(0x00007f4f5ff1d000)<br class="">
libG4graphics_reps.so =><br class="">
/home/gate/gate_sources2/geant4.10.01.p03-install/lib64/libG4graphics_reps.so<br class="">
(0x00007f4f5fcdf000)<br class="">
libG4intercoms.so =><br class="">
/home/gate/gate_sources2/geant4.10.01.p03-install/lib64/libG4intercoms.so<br class="">
(0x00007f4f5fa94000)<br class="">
libG4global.so =><br class="">
/home/gate/gate_sources2/geant4.10.01.p03-install/lib64/libG4global.so<br class="">
(0x00007f4f5f84b000)<br class="">
libG4clhep.so =><br class="">
/home/gate/gate_sources2/geant4.10.01.p03-install/lib64/libG4clhep.so<br class="">
(0x00007f4f5f5bc000)<br class="">
libG4zlib.so =><br class="">
/home/gate/gate_sources2/geant4.10.01.p03-install/lib64/libG4zlib.so<br class="">
(0x00007f4f5f3a6000)<br class="">
libG4geomUSolids.so =><br class="">
/home/gate/gate_sources2/geant4.10.01.p03-install/lib64/libG4geomUSolids.so<br class="">
(0x00007f4f5f100000)<br class="">
libCore.so => /home/gate/gate_sources2/root/lib/libCore.so<br class="">
(0x00007f4f5e753000)<br class="">
libCint.so => /home/gate/gate_sources2/root/lib/libCint.so<br class="">
(0x00007f4f5ddd1000)<br class="">
libRIO.so => /home/gate/gate_sources2/root/lib/libRIO.so<br class="">
(0x00007f4f5d8c6000)<br class="">
libNet.so => /home/gate/gate_sources2/root/lib/libNet.so<br class="">
(0x00007f4f5d54c000)<br class="">
libHist.so => /home/gate/gate_sources2/root/lib/libHist.so<br class="">
(0x00007f4f5cdda000)<br class="">
libGraf.so => /home/gate/gate_sources2/root/lib/libGraf.so<br class="">
(0x00007f4f5c9d3000)<br class="">
libGraf3d.so => /home/gate/gate_sources2/root/lib/libGraf3d.so<br class="">
(0x00007f4f5c6a7000)<br class="">
libGpad.so => /home/gate/gate_sources2/root/lib/libGpad.so<br class="">
(0x00007f4f5c3a3000)<br class="">
libTree.so => /home/gate/gate_sources2/root/lib/libTree.so<br class="">
(0x00007f4f5bf5b000)<br class="">
libRint.so => /home/gate/gate_sources2/root/lib/libRint.so<br class="">
(0x00007f4f5bd27000)<br class="">
libPostscript.so => /home/gate/gate_sources2/root/lib/libPostscript.so<br class="">
(0x00007f4f5baa7000)<br class="">
libMatrix.so => /home/gate/gate_sources2/root/lib/libMatrix.so<br class="">
(0x00007f4f5b647000)<br class="">
libPhysics.so => /home/gate/gate_sources2/root/lib/libPhysics.so<br class="">
(0x00007f4f5b3a9000)<br class="">
libMathCore.so => /home/gate/gate_sources2/root/lib/libMathCore.so<br class="">
(0x00007f4f5af2f000)<br class="">
libThread.so => /home/gate/gate_sources2/root/lib/libThread.so<br class="">
(0x00007f4f5acdb000)<br class="">
libdl.so.2 => /lib64/libdl.so.2 (0x0000003af2400000)<br class="">
libpthread.so.0 => /lib64/libpthread.so.0 (0x0000003af2800000)<br class="">
libSM.so.6 => /usr/lib64/libSM.so.6 (0x0000003afe000000)<br class="">
libICE.so.6 => /usr/lib64/libICE.so.6 (0x0000003afe400000)<br class="">
libX11.so.6 => /usr/lib64/libX11.so.6 (0x0000003af5000000)<br class="">
libXext.so.6 => /usr/lib64/libXext.so.6 (0x0000003af6000000)<br class="">
libexpat.so.1 => /lib64/libexpat.so.1 (0x0000003af6c00000)<br class="">
libstdc++.so.6 => /usr/lib64/libstdc++.so.6 (0x0000003afd400000)<br class="">
libm.so.6 => /lib64/libm.so.6 (0x0000003af2000000)<br class="">
libgcc_s.so.1 => /lib64/libgcc_s.so.1 (0x0000003af6400000)<br class="">
libc.so.6 => /lib64/libc.so.6 (0x0000003af1c00000)<br class="">
libz.so.1 => /lib64/libz.so.1 (0x0000003af2c00000)<br class="">
libpcre.so.0 => /lib64/libpcre.so.0 (0x0000003af3800000)<br class="">
/lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 (0x0000003af1800000)<br class="">
libcrypto.so.10 => /usr/lib64/libcrypto.so.10 (0x0000003afa800000)<br class="">
libssl.so.10 => /usr/lib64/libssl.so.10 (0x0000003b00800000)<br class="">
libfreetype.so.6 => /usr/lib64/libfreetype.so.6 (0x0000003af6800000)<br class="">
libuuid.so.1 => /lib64/libuuid.so.1 (0x0000003af7400000)<br class="">
libxcb.so.1 => /usr/lib64/libxcb.so.1 (0x0000003af5400000)<br class="">
libgssapi_krb5.so.2 => /lib64/libgssapi_krb5.so.2 (0x0000003b00400000)<br class="">
libkrb5.so.3 => /lib64/libkrb5.so.3 (0x0000003aff800000)<br class="">
libcom_err.so.2 => /lib64/libcom_err.so.2 (0x0000003afd800000)<br class="">
libk5crypto.so.3 => /lib64/libk5crypto.so.3 (0x0000003aff400000)<br class="">
libXau.so.6 => /usr/lib64/libXau.so.6 (0x0000003af5800000)<br class="">
libkrb5support.so.0 => /lib64/libkrb5support.so.0 (0x0000003affc00000)<br class="">
libkeyutils.so.1 => /lib64/libkeyutils.so.1 (0x0000003aff000000)<br class="">
libresolv.so.2 => /lib64/libresolv.so.2 (0x0000003af3c00000)<br class="">
libselinux.so.1 => /lib64/libselinux.so.1 (0x0000003af3400000)<br class="">
<br class="">
<br class="">
<br class="">
<br class="">
<br class="">
<blockquote type="cite" class="">1 mars 2016 kl. 18:03 skrev David Boersma<br class="">
<<a href="mailto:david.boersma@physics.uu.se" class="">david.boersma@physics.uu.se</a><br class="">
<<a href="mailto:david.boersma@physics.uu.se" class="">mailto:david.boersma@physics.uu.se</a>><<a href="mailto:david.boersma@physics.uu.se" class="">mailto:david.boersma@physics.uu.se</a>><br class="">
<<a href="mailto:david.boersma@physics.uu.se" class="">mailto:david.boersma@physics.uu.se</a>>>:<br class="">
<br class="">
Hi Gustaf,<br class="">
<br class="">
Which Ubuntu release are you using?<br class="">
<br class="">
I tried to reproduce your error on a Ubuntu 14.04 machine, also<br class="">
64bit.<br class="">
Since you mentioned that you are using geant4 10.01.p03, which is<br class="">
relatively new (released Feb 5), I wondered if that is maybe the<br class="">
culprit. But it does not look like it, because I can build and run<br class="">
Gate v7.1 just fine with that release. So my bet is that the errors<br class="">
that you report are not due to Gate or Geant4 code.<br class="">
<br class="">
(I even tried building geant4 with multithreading enabled --<br class="">
which one<br class="">
should NOT do for any production purposes because Gate is not yet<br class="">
ready for multithreading -- but even with MT-geant4 Gate can be built<br class="">
and it runs without linking errors, even though the results with MT<br class="">
are not to be trusted.)<br class="">
<br class="">
So...<br class="">
<br class="">
(1) Could you just quote the full output of ldd completely here in an<br class="">
e-mail (if the discussion below does not help you to solve it<br class="">
yourself)?<br class="">
<br class="">
The idea is that ldd tells you to which libraries an executable<br class="">
really<br class="">
gets linked. The results are sometimes surprising and<br class="">
instructive. For<br class="">
instance you mention that you used a bash script to set your<br class="">
environment correctly for building Gate, but maybe you still have<br class="">
similar settings for a different Geant4 version in your ~/.bash*<br class="">
files, which might create all kinds of havoc. The ldd utility can<br class="">
help<br class="">
to identify such issues.<br class="">
<br class="">
(2) The G4GammaParticipants size error makes me suspect that you<br class="">
maybe<br class="">
did not truly recompile from scratch (because its base class<br class="">
G4QGSParticipants depends on Random.hh, which has CLHEP-dependent<br class="">
code, so that class may indeed change size during a rebuild). Running<br class="">
'make clean' is not enough. "From scratch" means: start with a new,<br class="">
empty build directory, and run ccmake <sourcedir> in it. Why is this<br class="">
necessary? Well, cmake and make are very clever at keeping track of<br class="">
dependencies, but that is a very hard task and they are not perfect.<br class="">
<br class="">
(3) I am very mystified by this _ZN12G4AllocStats6numCatE error. With<br class="">
the c++filt utility you can see that this is indeed pointing to the<br class="">
numCat data member of G4AllocStats, which gets *declared* in the<br class="">
Geant4 source tree in this header file:<br class="">
<br class="">
./source/geometry/volumes/include/G4EnhancedVecAllocator.hh<br class="">
<br class="">
... but the funny thing is that this header file does not get<br class="">
included<br class="">
by *any* other source file, neither in the geant4 10.01.p03 sources<br class="">
nor in Gate 7.1 [1]! The only way I can think of this error to pop up<br class="">
is by confusion with a different geant4 version. Do you have other<br class="">
geant4 versions installed on your system?<br class="">
<br class="">
Hope that helps,<br class="">
David B.<br class="">
<br class="">
[1] It is mentioned in the sources.cmake file as a header file, of<br class="">
course. But that does not cause it to actually be #included anywhere.<br class="">
The 4.9.6 release notes mention that the use of<br class="">
G4EnhancedVecAllocator<br class="">
is disabled in some navigation class, and probably that was the only<br class="">
usage. Which suggests that the impostor Geant4 library on your system<br class="">
is older than 4.9.6. :)<br class="">
<br class="">
<br class="">
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Den 01/03/2016 kl. 13:22, skrev Gustaf Lönn:<br class="">
<blockquote type="cite" class="">Hello!<br class="">
<br class="">
First of all I want to express my gratitude for all the valuable<br class="">
help so<br class="">
far.<br class="">
<br class="">
I did a full recompile from scratch linked Gate to the correct G4. I<br class="">
still receive the symbol errors previously posted.<br class="">
<br class="">
I’m not sure on how I should interpret the results from the ldd<br class="">
command.<br class="">
<br class="">
//<br class="">
Gustaf<br class="">
<blockquote type="cite" class="">1 mars 2016 kl. 11:50 skrev David Sarrut<br class="">
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<<a href="mailto:David.Sarrut@creatis.insa-lyon.fr" class="">mailto:David.Sarrut@creatis.insa-lyon.fr</a>>>:<br class="">
<br class="">
Hello,<br class="">
<br class="">
maybe still a linking error. Be sure to recompile everything from<br class="">
scratch and be sure Gate is linked with the correct G4 only ...<br class="">
<br class="">
Check with ldd to List Dynamic Dependencies of an executable, it<br class="">
could<br class="">
help<br class="">
<br class="">
David<br class="">
<br class="">
On Tue, Mar 1, 2016 at 11:29 AM, Gustaf Lönn <<a href="mailto:gustaflo@kth.se" class="">gustaflo@kth.se</a><br class="">
<<a href="mailto:gustaflo@kth.se" class="">mailto:gustaflo@kth.se</a>><br class="">
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<<a href="mailto:gustaflo@kth.se" class="">mailto:gustaflo@kth.se</a>>> wrote:<br class="">
<br class="">
Hello!<br class="">
<br class="">
I tried to recompile both G4 and Gate without the external clhep.<br class="">
That took care of the initial library error. However, I received<br class="">
the following error when trying to run Gate:<br class="">
<br class="">
Symbol `_ZTV19G4GammaParticipants' has different size in shared<br class="">
object, consider re-linking<br class="">
Gate: symbol lookup error: Gate: undefined symbol:<br class="">
_ZN12G4AllocStats6numCatE<br class="">
<br class="">
I think ”GammaParticipants" originate from G4GammaParicipants.hh<br class="">
and ”AllocStats" from G4EnhancedVectorAllocator.hh<br class="">
<br class="">
In my bash script I removed the path and library path associated<br class="">
with system clhep, otherwise it is unchanged.<br class="">
<br class="">
any ideas?<br class="">
<br class="">
//Gustaf<br class="">
<blockquote type="cite" class="">1 mars 2016 kl. 08:01 skrev David Sarrut<br class="">
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<<a href="mailto:David.Sarrut@creatis.insa-lyon.fr" class="">mailto:David.Sarrut@creatis.insa-lyon.fr</a>><br class="">
<<a href="mailto:David.Sarrut@creatis.insa-lyon.fr" class="">mailto:David.Sarrut@creatis.insa-lyon.fr</a>>>:<br class="">
<br class="">
Hello,<br class="">
<br class="">
it should be a path issue. The simplest way is to use the G4<br class="">
embedded clhep and to not use external clhep. Once G4 is<br class="">
compiled, recompile Gate, without external clhep also.<br class="">
<br class="">
hope it helps,<br class="">
David<br class="">
<br class="">
On Mon, Feb 29, 2016 at 6:52 PM, Gustaf Lönn <<a href="mailto:gustaflo@kth.se" class="">gustaflo@kth.se</a><br class="">
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<<a href="mailto:gustaflo@kth.se" class="">mailto:gustaflo@kth.se</a>>> wrote:<br class="">
<br class="">
    Hello!<br class="">
<br class="">
    I have encountered a problem with the CLHEP libraries when<br class="">
    I’m trying to run Gate. Instead of searching for the external<br class="">
    2.2.0.4 CLHEP library the program wants to use the libG4chlep<br class="">
    and therefore terminates. I use x86 Ubuntu 64bit.<br class="">
<br class="">
    I have followed the installation/compilation instructions and<br class="">
    set the external CLHEP options to ”on” and set the following<br class="">
    paths:<br class="">
<br class="">
    Geant4<br class="">
    CLHEP_CONFIG_EXECUTABLE:<br class="">
    /home/gate/gate_sources2/2.2.0.4-install/bin/clhep-config<br class="">
    CLHEP_INCLUDE_DIR:<br class="">
    /home/gate/gate_sources2/2.2.0.4-install/include<br class="">
    CLHEP_LIBRARY:<br class="">
    /home/gate/gate_sources2/2.2.0.4-install/lib/libCLHEP.so<br class="">
<br class="">
    Gate<br class="">
    CLHEP_CONFIG_EXECUTABLE:<br class="">
    /home/gate/gate_sources2/2.2.0.4-install/bin/clhep-config<br class="">
    CLHEP_INCLUDE_DIR:<br class="">
    /home/gate/gate_sources2/2.2.0.4-install/include<br class="">
<br class="">
    In my bash script I have the following:<br class="">
<br class="">
    export<br class="">
    PATH=$PATH:/home/gate/gate_sources2/2.2.0.4-install/bin:<br class="">
    /home/gate/gate_sources2/2.2.0.4-install/include<br class="">
<br class="">
    export<br class="">
<br class="">
LD_LIBRARY_PATH=$LD_LIBRARY_PATH:/home/gate/gate_sources2/2.2.0.4-install/lib<br class="">
<br class="">
    source /home/gate/gate_sources2/root/bin/thisroot.sh<br class="">
<br class="">
    source<br class="">
    /home/gate/gate_sources2/geant4.10.01.p03-install/bin/geant4.sh<br class="">
<br class="">
    PATH=$PATH:/home/gate/gate_sources2/gate_v7.1-install/bin<br class="">
<br class="">
    export<br class="">
<br class="">
LD_LIBRARY_PATH=$LD_LIBRARY_PATH:/home/gate/gate_sources2/geant4.10.01.p03-install/lib64<br class="">
<br class="">
    Does anyone have any idea about what might be wrong? I’m<br class="">
    grateful for any suggestions!<br class="">
<br class="">
    Best Regards<br class="">
    Gustaf L<br class="">
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