<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:16px"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1413367557106_63517" dir="ltr"><span class="" style="" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1413367557106_64166">I read this in a Monte Carlo reference text:</span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1413367557106_63517" dir="ltr"><span class="" style=""> </span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1413367557106_63517" dir="ltr"><span class="" style="" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1413367557106_64182">"I</span>t (the Jensen's inequality in Monte Carlo method) expresses that the end result of a measurement process that combines elementary measurement processes is different from the result of a measurement process of combined elementary measurement process results."</div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1413367557106_63517" dir="ltr"> </div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1413367557106_63517" dir="ltr">That's why I am sort of doubtful about the ultimate uncertainty of this addition approach. </div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1413367557106_63517" dir="ltr"><br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1413367557106_63517" dir="ltr">Best</div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1413367557106_63517" dir="ltr">Soman</div> <div class="qtdSeparateBR"><br><br></div><div class="yahoo_quoted" style="display: block;"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"> <div dir="ltr"> <font size="2" face="Arial"> On Wednesday, October 15, 2014 2:10 PM, Grevillot Loic <loic.grevillot@medaustron.at> wrote:<br> </font> </div> <br><br> <div class="y_msg_container"><div id="yiv7102759071"><style>#yiv7102759071 #yiv7102759071 --
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<div class="yiv7102759071MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;">Of course not!</span></div>
<div class="yiv7102759071MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;">If you buy 2 times 10 apples or 1 time 20 apples you get in both cases 20 apples.</span></div>
<div class="yiv7102759071MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;">Reference to papers used for uncertainty calculations are available – please look at Gate reference papers!</span></div>
<div class="yiv7102759071MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;">Please use the list, other people may benefit of discussion and my contributions are on free time which is very limited at the moment…</span></div>
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<div class="yiv7102759071MsoNormal"><span lang="DE" style="font-size:10.0pt;">Kind regards,</span></div>
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<div class="yiv7102759071MsoNormal"><span lang="DE-AT" style="font-size:10.0pt;">Loïc Grevillot</span><span lang="DE-AT" style="font-size:10.0pt;"></span></div>
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<div class="yiv7102759071MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;"> S. Saghamanesh [mailto:s.saghamanesh@yahoo.com]
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<b>Sent:</b> Mittwoch, 15. Oktober 2014 12:34<br clear="none">
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Gate-users] Can't run with 100 million particles</span></div>
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<div class="yiv7102759071MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;">Thanks for your note. However, due to the linear operation of this addition, I'll have a greater uncertainty!</span></div>
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<div class="yiv7102759071MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;">For example, I have two simulations with uncertainties of sigma1 = 0.7 (70%) and sigma2 = 0.6 (60%). After the addition, I'll have
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<div class="yiv7102759071MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;">So I wanted to reduce my uncertainty by increasing my statistics (through several simulations), but ultimately I'd obtain a greater
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<div class="yiv7102759071MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;">On Monday, October 13, 2014 8:41 AM, Grevillot Loic <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:loic.grevillot@medaustron.at" target="_blank" href="mailto:loic.grevillot@medaustron.at">loic.grevillot@medaustron.at</a>> wrote:</span><span style=""></span></div>
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<div class="yiv7102759071MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span lang="DE" style="font-size:10.0pt;">Sincerely,</span><span style=""></span></div>
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<div class="yiv7102759071MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;"> S. Saghamanesh [<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:s.saghamanesh@yahoo.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:s.saghamanesh@yahoo.com">mailto:s.saghamanesh@yahoo.com</a>]
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<b>Sent:</b> Samstag, 11. Oktober 2014 13:53<br clear="none">
<b>To:</b> Grevillot Loic; <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:gate-users@lists.opengatecollaboration.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:gate-users@lists.opengatecollaboration.org">
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Gate-users] Can't run with 100 million particles</span><span style=""></span></div>
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<div class="yiv7102759071MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;">which is supposed to run 10 simulations with 10 million particles with different seeds (by </span><span style="font-size:11.5pt;">/gate/random/setEngineSeed
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<div class="yiv7102759071MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;">Do you have any idea what's wrong with this command? I guess it's the only way I can proceed with 100 million primaries without getting
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<div class="yiv7102759071MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;">You said you need to run 100 million primaries and artifacts appear after 10 million.</span><span style=""></span></div>
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<div class="yiv7102759071MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;">My suggestion is therefore to run 10 simulations of 10 million particles (fully equivalent to a single simu of 100 million). You just
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<div class="yiv7102759071MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;">Thanks a lot for your note. I use of splitting 1000 for my emitted photons but I still have unacceptable uncertainties, so I have to
run with 100 million particles. Do you tell me if I run 10 simulations with 10 million particles, it would lessen the uncertainty? I guess it wouldn't, because I have uncertain results with a single simulation of 10 million particles.</span><span style=""></span></div>
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<div class="yiv7102759071MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;">We noticed a similar simulation “artifact” when a too high number of particles was used. We also noticed that the effect is dependent
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<div class="yiv7102759071MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;">Is there any limitation on the number of primary particles generated in Gate7.0 ? It seems running code with more than 10 million particles
leads to false results. I need to run my code with 100 millions particles, but after checking (with a very simple example), I noticed that no more than 20 million particles would be generated.</span><span style=""></span></div>
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