<div dir="ltr">Hello Maximilien, <div><br></div><div>we are currently working on an approach that could decrease the computation time (hopefully by a least 1 order of magnitude). However, this approach which is based on the forced detection technique, is still in development and not yet available. In the meantime, try to be sure to avoid any electron generation. </div>
<div><br></div><div>David</div>
</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 3:03 PM, MELISSAS Maximilien (SAFRAN) <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:maximilien.melissas-alten@safran.fr" target="_blank">maximilien.melissas-alten@safran.fr</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN:0cm 0cm 10pt"><span lang="EN-US"><font size="3"><font face="Calibri"><a></a><span lang="EN-US"><font size="3"><font face="Calibri">Dear</font></font></span> Gate-users<a></a>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN:0cm 0cm 10pt"><span lang="EN-US"><font size="3"><font face="Calibri">I am<a></a> using<a></a> Gate<a></a> to simulate<a></a> a CT acquisition chain<a></a> (GE tomex<a></a> L 450) used<a></a>
for CT analysis<a></a> of aeronautical<a></a> parts.<u></u><u></u></font></font></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN:0cm 0cm 10pt"><span lang="EN-US"><font size="3"><font face="Calibri">The main issue I am<a></a> facing<a></a> is<a></a> computing<a></a> time, especially<a></a> if I want<a></a> to simulate<a></a>
a full scan (2400 projections at<a></a> I= 2ma<a></a>, V = 350 kV. (One of) my<a></a> “test” setup is<a></a> an epoxy<a></a> cylinder<a></a> located<a></a> 50 cm from<a></a> the tube, with<a></a> the detector at<a></a> 1m<a></a> from<a></a> the tube, if I propagate<a></a>
500 000 (as a benchmark) photons the “user”computing<a></a> times are the following<a></a>:<u></u><u></u></font></font></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN:0cm 0cm 10pt"><span lang="EN-US"><font size="3"><font face="Calibri">31.15 seconds without<a></a> optimization<a></a> (Only<a></a> setting the simulation as /fast<a></a>/ to avoid<a></a> losing<a></a>
one hour<a></a> computing<a></a> a 2048x2048<a></a> pixels grid<a></a>)<u></u><u></u></font></font></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN:0cm 0cm 10pt"><span lang="EN-US"><font size="3"><font face="Calibri">30.8 seconds if I play<a></a> with<a></a> MaxStepSize<a></a> (Actually<a></a>, if I do /gate<a></a>/physics<a></a>/SetMaxStepSizeInRegion<a></a>
world 15.0 mm, is<a></a> the step<a></a> size reset to a normal value when<a></a> entering<a></a> another<a></a> material<a></a> ? )<u></u><u></u></font></font></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN:0cm 0cm 10pt"><span lang="EN-US"><font size="3"><font face="Calibri">31.71 seconds if I set VRT<a></a> to 10 (as in the benchmarkCT<a></a>/vrt<a></a> example<a></a>)<u></u><u></u></font></font></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN:0cm 0cm 10pt"><span lang="EN-US"><font size="3"><font face="Calibri">This important CPU<a></a> time makes<a></a> me fear<a></a> that<a></a> I cannot<a></a> compute<a></a> nor<a></a> a realistic<a></a> amount<a></a>
of photon, neither<a></a> a realistic<a></a> number<a></a> of projections, so<a></a> I need<a></a> to find<a></a> some<a></a> way<a></a> to reduce<a></a> computing<a></a> time while<a></a> keeping<a></a> useful<a></a> informations)
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN:0cm 0cm 10pt"><span lang="EN-US"><font size="3"><font face="Calibri">Is-there<a></a> any<a></a> option similar<a></a> to thinning<a></a>/weighting<a></a> (but for primaries<a></a> since<a></a>
I am<a></a> not interested<a></a> in secondary<a></a> electrons<a></a>) to increase<a></a> luminosity<a></a> without<a></a> increasing<a></a> computing<a></a>-time? Is there<a></a> any<a></a> other<a></a> way<a></a> to reduce<a></a> the simulation time? Does<a></a>
the vrt<a></a> increase<a></a> the weight<a></a> of a photon hitting<a></a> the detector and thus<a></a> increase<a></a> virtually<a></a> the number<a></a> of photons? (I haven't<a></a> tried<a></a> yet<a></a> to generate<a></a> images with<a></a> the vrt<a></a>
enabled<a></a>) </font></font></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN:0cm 0cm 10pt"><span lang="EN-US"><font size="3"><font face="Calibri"><a></a><span lang="EN-US"><font size="3"><font face="Calibri">Another</font></font></span> question, even<a></a> though<a></a>
the default source is<a></a> conical<a></a>, I'd<a></a> like<a></a> to take<a></a> into<a></a> account<a></a> the Gaussian-shape<a></a> of the X-ray spot, is<a></a> there<a></a> advanced<a></a> setting of the source in the macros? If not-is<a></a> there<a></a> any<a></a> Cpp<a></a>
example<a></a>?<u></u><u></u></font></font></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN:0cm 0cm 10pt"><span lang="EN-US"><font size="3"><font face="Calibri">A last question, how do I find<a></a> the history<a></a> of a hit, when<a></a> parsing<a></a> the ntuple<a></a>, can<a></a>
I find<a></a> information about the hit's<a></a> history<a></a>, whether<a></a> the photon has been scattered<a></a>, and through<a></a> which<a></a> material<a></a> has it<a></a> been propagated<a></a> ?
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN:0cm 0cm 10pt"><span lang="EN-US"></span><span lang="EN-US"><font size="3"><font face="Calibri">i.e. how do I make<a></a> the difference<a></a> between<a></a>
<u></u><u></u></font></font></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN:0cm 0cm 10pt"><span lang="EN-US"><font size="3"><font face="Calibri">0<span>
</span>0.0116<span> </span>0.013<span>
</span>-150<span> </span>0.156<span>
</span>0<span> </span>0<span>
</span>0<span> </span>world_phys<a></a> initStep<a></a><u></u><u></u></font></font></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN:0cm 0cm 10pt"><span lang="EN-US"><font size="3"><font face="Calibri"><span> </span>1<span>
</span>0.433<span> </span>-4.18<span>
</span>-12<span> </span>0.156<span>
</span>0<span> </span>138<span>
</span>138 epoxyCylinder_phys<a></a> Transportation<u></u><u></u></font></font></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN:0cm 0cm 10pt"><span lang="EN-US"><font size="3"><font face="Calibri"><span> </span>2<span>
</span>0.458<span> </span>-4.42<span>
</span>-3.97<span> </span>0.156<span>
</span>0<span> </span>8.02<span>
</span>146 CCylinder_phys<a></a> Transportation<u></u><u></u></font></font></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN:0cm 0cm 10pt"><span lang="EN-US"><font size="3"><font face="Calibri"><span> </span>3<span>
</span>0.482<span> </span>-4.66<span>
</span>3.97<span> </span>0.156<span>
</span>0<span> </span>7.95<span>
</span>154 epoxyCylinder_phys<a></a> Transportation<u></u><u></u></font></font></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN:0cm 0cm 10pt"><span lang="EN-US"><font size="3"><font face="Calibri"><span> </span>4<span>
</span>0.506<span> </span>-4.9<span>
</span>11.8<span> </span>0.156 0.000291<span>
</span>7.81<span> </span>162 epoxyCylinder_phys<a></a> Compton<u></u><u></u></font></font></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN:0cm 0cm 10pt"><span lang="EN-US"><font size="3"><font face="Calibri"><span> </span>5<span>
</span>0.539<span> </span>-4.87<span>
</span>12<span> </span>0.156<span>
</span><span> </span>0<span>
</span>0.216<span> </span>162 world_phys<a></a> Transportation<u></u><u></u></font></font></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN:0cm 0cm 10pt"><span lang="EN-US"><font size="3"><font face="Calibri"><span> </span>6<span>
</span>22<span> </span>12.5<span>
</span>150<span> </span>0.156<span>
</span>0<span> </span>141<span>
</span>303<span> </span>pixel_phys<a></a> Transportation<u></u><u></u></font></font></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN:0cm 0cm 10pt"><span lang="EN-US"><font size="3"><font face="Calibri">And
<u></u><u></u></font></font></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN:0cm 0cm 10pt"><span lang="EN-US"><font size="3"><font face="Calibri">0<span>
</span>-0.0249<span> </span>-0.017<span>
</span>-150<span> </span>0.114<span>
</span>0<span> </span>0<span>
</span>0<span> </span>world_phys<a></a> initStep<a></a><u></u><u></u></font></font></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN:0cm 0cm 10pt"><span lang="EN-US"><font size="3"><font face="Calibri"><span> </span>1<span>
</span>-4.21<span> </span>0.707<span>
</span>-11.2<span> </span>0.114<span>
</span>0<span> </span>139<span>
</span>139 epoxyCylinder_phys<a></a> Transportation<u></u><u></u></font></font></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN:0cm 0cm 10pt"><span lang="EN-US"><font size="3"><font face="Calibri"><span> </span>2<span>
</span>-4.88<span> </span>0.823<span>
</span>11<span> </span>0.114<span>
</span>0<span> </span>22.2<span>
</span>161<span> </span>world_phys<a></a> Transportation<u></u><u></u></font></font></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN:0cm 0cm 10pt"><span lang="EN-US"><font size="3"><font face="Calibri"><span> </span>3<span>
</span>-9.06<span> </span>1.55<span>
</span>150<span> </span>0.114<span>
</span>0<span> </span>139<span>
</span>300<span> </span>pixel_phys<a></a> Transportation<u></u><u></u></font></font></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN:0cm 0cm 10pt"><span lang="EN-US"><font size="3"><font face="Calibri">I guess<a></a> I should<a></a> set some<a></a> actors<a></a>, but I do not find<a></a> any<a></a> clear<a></a> examples<a></a>
in the documentation. <u></u><u></u></font></font></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN:0cm 0cm 10pt"><span lang="EN-US"><font size="3"><font face="Calibri"></font></font></span> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN:0cm 0cm 10pt"><span lang="EN-US"><font face="calibri" size="3"><a></a><span lang="EN-US"><font face="calibri" size="3">Thanks</font></span> for your<a></a>
answers<a></a>/help, </font></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN:0cm 0cm 10pt"><span lang="EN-US"><u></u><font face="Calibri" size="3"> </font><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN:0cm 0cm 10pt"><span lang="EN-US"><u></u><font face="Calibri" size="3"> Cheers<a></a>,
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN:0cm 0cm 10pt"><span lang="EN-US"><u></u><font face="calibri" size="3">Maximilien
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