<html><head><style type="text/css"><!-- DIV {margin:0px;} --></style></head><body><div style="font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt"><div style="font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; font-size: 12pt;">Hi,<br><br>>> <font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;" lang="EN-US">what Windows you check that this is working</span></font><br><br>I have not _check_ that Gate is working in this exact configuration, <br>but I use vmware on windows and linux every days (windows XP pro 64 host -> vmware -> linux 64 guest and linux 64 host -> vmware -> windows host XP pro 32) and all non-3D-accelerated software run nicely on guest.<br><br>>> <font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;" lang="EN-US">how
powerful the hardware should be compared to regular Linux installation<br><br><span style="font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif;">exactly the same, only 2-5% power lost, this is virtualisation, not emulation.<br><br>>> </span></span></font><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;" lang="EN-US">how does this type of installation works
compared to simple (or dual boot) Linux installation on the same hardware,
drivers issue, disk format (NTFS vs. Linux partitions) etc.<br><br>exactly like a software installation under windows for wmvare,<br>then use GUI to create a new virtual PC,<br>then install linux exactly like a linux install on real hardware<br><br></span></font><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;" lang="EN-US">drivers issue : vmware is fully support on most linux < 3 years<br><br></span></font><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;" lang="EN-US"></span></font><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;" lang="EN-US">disk format : as you want, linux hard disk will be ...virtualized (for you, it's better to use NTFS on your windows, large files are better supported than in FAT32, and EXT2/3 is not well supported under windows, and use ext2/3 in the virtual linux)</span></font><br><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;
font-family: Arial;" lang="EN-US"><br>>> My experience was that it was a slow thing</span></font><br>here we are speeking about virtualisation, barely no slow down.<br>slow down only occured if you have not enouth RAM and if vmware need to virtualize RAM on hard disk (this will kill performance) <br><br>>> <font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;" lang="EN-US">Ideal thing would be Linux
simulating Gate working in background of Windows… I have lengthy
simulations (days) and urgent short things in Windows. In such case dual boot
is out of question.<br><br>You definitively need virtualisation (as me ;-).<br><br></span></font>So after all, if you have 1Go Ram or more, just download vmware server and try it on the first (real) computer you find.<br><br>Best regards,<br><br>Samuel<br><br><br>NB: I have no commertial involvment in VMware, it only a good software with a free server version.<br>I you like experience, you can try Qemu, a great software for virtualisation, but better under linux than under windows, fully open source.<br><br><br><br><br><br><div style="font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; font-size: 12pt;">----- Message d'origine ----<br>De : Marcin Balcerzyk <m.balcerzyk@pluri.ucm.es><br>À : Samuel BURG <samuel_burg@yahoo.fr><br>Envoyé le : Lundi, 21 Avril 2008, 12h49mn 18s<br>Objet : Gate on VMware Windows server<br><br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">Dear Samuel, </span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"> </span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;" lang="EN-US">Could you offer some more details about this way of
installing Gate? For example: what Windows you check that this is working, how
powerful the hardware should be compared to regular Linux installation, what
Linux you can install this way, how does this type of installation works
compared to simple (or dual boot) Linux installation on the same hardware,
drivers issue, disk format (NTFS vs. Linux partitions) etc.</span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;" lang="EN-US">I once worked on VM windows, but that was I think a
remote session to a Windows server. My experience was that it was a slow thing.
I would like to buy a machine which would work in Windows and Linux, but dual
boot seems to me to slow a mode for changing applications. I need Linux for
Gate and Windows for PMOD and other software. Ideal thing would be Linux
simulating Gate working in background of Windows… I have lengthy
simulations (days) and urgent short things in Windows. In such case dual boot
is out of question. </span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;" lang="EN-US">Best regards</span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style=""><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;" lang="FR">Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008
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<p class="MsoNormal" style=""><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;" lang="EN-US">From: Samuel BURG
<samuel_burg@yahoo.fr></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style=""><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;" lang="EN-US">Subject: Re :
[Gate-users] Installation of GATE on Windows XP?</span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style=""><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;" lang="EN-US">To: Users Gate <
gate-users@lists.healthgrid.org ></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style=""><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;" lang="EN-US">The be
tt er way to do this, is not to use cygwin and to
download / install VMware Server for windows (free), then install a Linux in a
virtual PC.</span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style=""><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;" lang="DE">Best regards,</span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style=""><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;" lang="DE">Samuel</span></font></p>
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